Forlorn Hope
The Attic => General World of Warcraft Discussion => Topic started by: Twylyte on 28 November 2007, 01:50:05 pm
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Does anyone fancy joining a small group together from lvl 1 to start adventuring from scratch on Tuesdays 8.00 - 11.00 Server time
But there's a twist....
Total PVP
Character creation/development is entirely dedicated to creating a 5 man PVP team (oh that's what the survival tree is for!).
5 different races 5 different sets of skills. Must have a healer... total teamwork..
The aim would be to:
- Do battlegrounds
PVP including against each other
Do instances to get PVP goodies
Learn about the other side of the game
Become a team that knows each others strengths/styles etc and does well in arenas
and then just fights everyone.
The team would be beautifully balanced and designed as a group.
I might even suggest Horde (any views) as they can get into battlegrounds quicker and are more likley to be in the same team.
Oooh bagsy me an Ice Mage
Mark
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hmm, 5 man teams actually do best with one dedicated healer [pally since the bubble is just too powerful] and a hybrid class which can heal if needed i.e. a priest with a lot of +damage gear to facilitate his healing if he leaves shadow form, a oomkin druid which is a bad idea since they are generally very situational and not consistently good, or a elemental/healing shammy which is generally the best choice.
In terms of whats left, you want a nice balance of good PVP builds so dagger rogue's, shadow priests, destruction locks, fury warriors and ice mages are the major archetypes
IF this helps
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Yeah the feedback I've had are pallys are a must. The reason I was given was that they take longer to take down so the enemy gets confused because typically the healer is the first target. With a pally you have to decide whether that's going to take too long. It's great for the pally also as they become critical in the fight.
Locks and shammys are absolutely brilliant is a tight corner so long as they are controlled by good players. Locks have fewer ways of surviving a beating but boy can they dish it out. Shammys are tough because they have so many things that they can do and are so damn adaptable. Imagine a shammy in the hands of a great player (so not me then!!).
You are right about the two healing classes though and speccing them both is really interesting.
Pally, Shammy, Mage hmmmm
... you never said if you'd be interested Mags?
Mark
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Well commiting myself 4 nights a week may kill me, :D nah seriously it's cos i'm usually out for at least some of Tuesday evenings, more than me not wanting to level with you guys. I got a shammy i am [slowly] leveling who is gonna be elemental with a bit of healing possibly, so I can use him? He's about twenty something.
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I'll hav a go if you like. I have a 13 shadow priest already on the go and in the guild (Donepton) but I'll take to a new role if you like. I've played shadow priest before, got a 36 on Darkspear server. I love pvp. If you look at the guild tab in social you'll probably see me in a major city about to do pvp or you'll see me in a BG. You can ask Neodragus for reasurance if you like because he seems to think im pritty handy in pvp. Im not too bad with warriors either. I have a 42 fury warrior on Darkspear also. As you can see when I'm online, I'm not too bad with the old pallies either. If you need another role filling, I'm always willing. Have a rogue on the go at the moment as well, was going to twink him at 19 just for a bit of fun :) Anyways, reply back if you want me or not or just catch me in game under this name. :)
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Seems like a really interesting Idea, i'd be up for it, anything in particular you want me to play as? this could be an excuse to make me play that shaman of mine! = D
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My ideas are only developing I thought I'd ask everybody first what they wanted to play and how they wanted to do it.
An ideal world would have us on a PVP server as Horde. I say Horde becuase they have better access to battle grounds. The other reason is, that in most servers Alliance outnumber Hordies 2 or 3 to 1. There's no point building a group of 5 on Alliance only to not find anyone to argue with.
I thought maybe start from stractch - lots of duelling amongst ourselves and with others. And, plenty of instance runs for better gear mixed with plenty of battles for better gear. For a while we twink a bit as well.
We can really work up a team that work well together an know each other really well. leveling is much quicker now as well.
Neo and yourself Palladinftw would be ideal. I know you are both great players. I've played with Neo lots of times and he's a great team player.
How does that scenario sound?
Mark
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Neo and yourself Palladinftw would be ideal. I know you are both great players. I've played with Neo lots of times and he's a great team player.
How does that scenario sound?
Mark
Aww shucks man, never knew u felt that way = p
Me an pala here together IRL and we agree, sign us both up for it! = D
if people wanna talk more about this u can carry this on, in here or u can add us on msn or something = ) Mines Neodragus@hotmail.co.uk and Pala's is jimbob24191@hotmail.co.uk
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We need two more players of course so let's keep the discussion here for now.
Are you guys OK with PVP realm & Horde, Tuesday evenings for starters?
Also (and critically) what characters would you like to play?
I think so far we know that we need a Pally (don't know what spec) and maybe a Shammy (elemental spec).
Neo you wanna try that elemental shammy that you mentioned? (I think it has to be elemental 'cos of that massive totem at the end of the talent tree).
Also if Horde you might want to think whether you want Taurun for extra health or Orc for extra damage.
If you go Tauren - in the spirit of optimisation - you might be the flower picker!!
As for the pally - well we know what race that is!
Mark
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We need two more players of course so let's keep the discussion here for now.
Are you guys OK with PVP realm & Horde, Tuesday evenings for starters?
Also (and critically) what characters would you like to play?
I think so far we know that we need a Pally (don't know what spec) and maybe a Shammy (elemental spec).
Neo you wanna try that elemental shammy that you mentioned? (I think it has to be elemental 'cos of that massive totem at the end of the talent tree).
Also if Horde you might want to think whether you want Taurun for extra health or Orc for extra damage.
If you go Tauren - in the spirit of optimisation - you might be the flower picker!!
As for the pally - well we know what race that is!
Well... I don't mind what I am... anything works really... I'll just have to learn the class. I can play pally or lock or anything really so just say an i'll make it.
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I'll put you down for "anything". I'm a bit the same I'll play whatever is needed.
I'm going to ask advice on the healer stuff. Assuming we have a Pally and a Shammy elemental in reserve and won't be having a big tree of a druid - then what's the best combo?
I'm a bit nervous about suggesting a Preist even a shadow preist. I just think that any softie seen healing has a 5-man arena lifespan of about 5 seconds.
Does anyone out there have any experience of this?
Mark
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I'll put you down for "anything". I'm a bit the same I'll play whatever is needed.
I'm going to ask advice on the healer stuff. Assuming we have a Pally and a Shammy elemental in reserve and won't be having a big tree of a druid - then what's the best combo?
I'm a bit nervous about suggesting a Preist even a shadow preist. I just think that any softie seen healing has a 5-man arena lifespan of about 5 seconds.
Does anyone out there have any experience of this?
Mark
Yes, I have experience of this, Clothies generally don't manage to live if they are the first to be hit and have a slow reaction time, but I have a pretty quick reaction time as do a few of my mates (Paladinftw) gotta be ready with that aoe fear button = p and, i'm pretty happy with whatever, I'd love to be that Shaman as I love shaman, as I can then concentrate on disrupting heals with my lovely earth shock = D as far the rest of the group, I think warlocks and / or mages are a good idea, Druids actually seem like a really great idea, and I would love to play the druid as theres so much to do and remember and I love having roles like that, because, talking with a mate of mine who's got a lvl 70 druid on our server, they seem pretty awesome = D, plus in my newest guild when we're pvping they seem to hate druids! Discepline priests are the best out of the priest choices for arena aswell (my druid friend is very smart = p) I just enjoy having rogues, general subtlety or assasination which I would also love to use, shamans are a different thing to talk about though, the elementals only pretty good where as resto ones are really good healers for arena! I can interrogate my friend about this stuff a bit more if u guys want me too = p
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I'll play the pally healer if you like. I've got loads of experience with healers, have a 36 priest on darkspear which im pritty handy with that heal button. I love playing pally as well so...meh :P
But if someone else has already put their name down for healing, I'm always up for trying out new things so I'll do the mage if you like cause i've not tried one properly before.
I think that a shammy is a definate for 5vs5 areana cos most n00by 5vs5 teams always seem to run oput togeather an I think they would be very easy to do over with a shammies chain lightening. Also I would probably prefer a frosty mage over a lock just cause of its freezing spells to slow down the oponents. A druid in Boomkin form would be something as well. In think a warrior would also have to be in just for the amount of damage they can cause. And a healer would have to be something with high armour so a pally would be perfect.
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OK Then:
Jimbo (is that right?) - Pally
Neo - Shaman or Druid
Mark - Undecided but might do Lock (they just seem so good) or Ice Mage
No Preists (and I would say Hunters) need apply unless someone is passionate about making it work.
So we have a vacancy for PVP
Rogue
Shammy or Druid
Warrior
Hopefully, as we get more people to read the forum, we can get some volunteers.
Mark
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Hmm, well there are some interesting points made here, at some clarification could be done with, I guess my first point is about shadow priests, quite possibly one of the best spec for solo/small group PVP with the exception of the lock who is kickin ass atm. Apart from their AoE fear with a ridiculously low CD, they regen health for all the party, DoT everyone, can heal if needed and you would really have to be an idiot to let an enemy hit you first [few exceptions here, rogue rather obviously and a charging warrior] also remeber they can bubble, and fear ward the whole group.
You may not want one, but don't go underestimating the shadow priest. My second point is about druids, which I guess you could call my specialty. It would be fair to say that they've got harder what with the ATP increases and auto shift meaning a feral can actually power shift [whereby a druid morphs out and back in to cat form effectively gaining him 40 energy] with a sufficient mana base. Problem is you loose most of the cool situational abilities of a druid if your in feral form.
The main things to talk about here are cyclone with it's very short cast time and entangling roots which as you can guess is a root attack. If you want to talk about sitting ducks try putting a non shifted druid in to a arena match. It's great cos everyone automatically assumes your healing and the rogues own you :D If you want to win consistently, you need a plan and a druid is not made for that, only with 5 experienced PVPers could you really go for this.
I guess my point is you want 5 people in a team to make tactics and having an unpredictable character can make things harder to plan, i'd say stick with the obvious PVP choices since they are generally the best. Pally, Shammy, Lock, Rogue or fury warrior and shadow priest.
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One thing you've got wrong there Ben, Fury warriors are not PvP warriors, in the slightest, sure, they can do some damage, but they are no where near as good as an arms warriors, unless the fury warrior is geared to the eyeballs, although a geared MS warrior is better PvP wise (trust me here, they're pretty much my specialty here).
Feral combat druids are pretty awesome in PvP, i'm hearing so many complaints about them in PvP and druids and theres a small thing to increase the PvE damage for Arms warriors in the fury tree, but anyway, this isn't a warrior discussion! Classes I feel are good for Arena as we're looking at this as a small party / PvP thing, an Arms warrior seems as a must as they are amazing burst damage and usually scare the crap out of most groups... a Rogue (one class that I will gladly play) for that oh so sweet shadow step, Druids (Another I can be signed up for if u wish ^^) have the ability to heal, ranged dps, two different CC's (if i'm right they can't both be used at the same time but have different CD timers) Paladins are probably the best choice of a healer for arena, closely followed by shaman, (thats a third i'd be willing to take the opportunity to play) however shaman are a good choice for a dps aswell, (elemental spec, NOT ENHANCEMENT) Ice Mages are another nasty choice, Fire mages and PoM Pyro aren't really a great choice as the frost spells hack off most people and ... bahh! raid time!! *runs away* i'll post more later!
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Here's a question..
Lets say one of our players is a maniac called Neodragus who always charges in and batters the hell out of someone.
We have a shammy, a druid and a pally. We all have the macro /target Neodragus /cast heal (or whatever the appropriate spell is called)
Instantly Neodragus gets 2 instant heals and a heal over time (that's the druid) from 3 players
That's one click from 3 players and Neo can go mental all over again.
My question is ... do we need a dedicated healer?
Or can we rotate characters to heal; none of whome is a dedicated healer
Let's say we don't have a Shadow Preist
We have a Lock, Shammy, Pally, Druid and a Rogue
What's the kill order against that group AND would it work or does the Pally still need to heal?
Would we wouldn't need a Warrior if the Pally was a Retribution Pally and played by a Pally expert in PaladinFTW??
what do you think?
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I'll deal with what Adz said first,
First things first, fury/arms warriors regardless of what I call them I mean the big nasty one with MS/WW with a big bastard hard double handed weapon, so's not to confuse everyone :D
There is no point [and I really mean this] in having a druid there if your going to go feral spec with him when you already have a warrior and a rogue. That group is not blanced because there is an overreliance on mellee DPS and if one had to go, it should be the druid. As with all classes with an excellent player it doesn't matter but I wouldn't sacrifice MS/WW or Shadow step for a feral druid [choose an ability it's not really important since although the abilities have better spread, it's situational and you have to be able to morph out and pull it off without being mauled]
If the idea is to keep things simple which lets be honest, if your working as a team you want a clearly defined role
for everyone in the team so you can get a good strategy going, remember this is 5v5 and it requires a little pre planning and getting used to others play styles so the easier you can define roles the better.
Right on to what Mark says,
It's a nice idea matey but what you've gotta consider is there are 5 people in the group and it would be stupid of them to attack the warrior, they'd go straight for the healers, in PVE it would work wonders but remember your playing against real players who will just take out the valuable members first.
I'd say best bet is this team with a few changes
Lock: No brainer, you need a good player but it's an easy role fear, stun & DoT
Pally: No arguements here, bubble and plate armour make him the hardest healer by a mile
Shammy/Priest: Both will spec for damage but have the option of off healing if needed or if the main healer dies. Lots of damage thrown out and totems/PwF and fear ward make them very powerful choices.
Rogue/Druid: Your call here I guess, I say the rogue is harder but if you insist on taking a feral druid, then take him over the rogue since they essentially fill the same role i.e. stealth and kill the healers/most dangerous and rogues have sap as another CC choice.
Choice 5: I stick with a MS warrior, silly damage and halving healing effects makes him ludicrously hard, not to mention a big fear for CC if needed. This is slot number 5 though so any archetype would do, frost mage is usefull for extra mana and a sheep [though that has been nurfed of late],
Your other advantage with lock pally shammy rogue warrior is that you got a nice 5 man group for instances whilst levelling too.
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You mean Arms warriors Ben = D thats the nasty beggers ^_^
and looking at things now, after fighting lots of druids (I've spent most of today in arena) druids aren't that tough in a group, it's only solo they're arses... and an MS warrior is almost a must have, aswell as a rogue as they are pretty amazing, the blind on any target, and the saps and stuns... oh man! *dribbles slightly*
Now, The paladin is a must, and it'll have to be Holy with about 15 in prot (thats only roughly)
Now, surprisignly clothies are probably the best source to have in a 5vs5 team, theyre like the socialist dicks in wow like the americans are in real life... mages.... sheep to get rid of a healer or dps for a while, whilst the priest and warlock have the fear that screws everyone over unless your a warrior thats smart and hasn't blown your cooldowns as quickly as some people blow their load... (sorry for talking like this, i've been watching too many videos where games are talked about in such a way that it's funny when said quickly, just imagine i'm speaking really fast and without any punctuation at all...) now, We have three members decided upon Me James (Pala) and Mark now, thats three classes i was thinking here:
Me - Rogue
James - Paladin
Mark - Mage (or some other thing u wish that'd be good In Arena)
anyone want to volounteer for anything? if no one else, we could just do this as a 3v3 thing, that would mean we can start quicker and what not, now i'm pretty bored with playing wow and that after a day of bad arena with people who have the mental capacity of a walnut, so i'll bid u all farewell for now, i'll come back when i'm in a better mood...
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Thanks for all this input though guys I'm learning a lot. I've never done Arena stuff so this is a really valuable conversation to me.
I think I'd like to play Mage or Lock and I think I'll go for Lock.
So, the concensus is
Lock = Me
Rogue = Neo
Pally = James
Warrior = Vacancy
Shaman = Vacancy
I think we can fill those vacancies you know. We can constantly instance run if we get 5 which also would be useful. I still think Ben would make a great Shammy though don't you think??? :)
Mark
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I would love to give it a go guys but I really just don't have as much time as i'd like free these days. I'll see what I can do but what with my computer not being great and my internet being slow, i've not been playing at all. Well se how things pan out over the next few days since my ISP changes on the 12th I may be able to move things around if I get a stable connection
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On a related note, I just stayed up most of the night watching a WoW 3v3 arena tournament, and the winners were a team called pandemic who were playing with a priest, rogue and mage team.
As it turns out the majority of the healers were druids which makes sense considering I guess considering the multiple CC and having the advantage of arena gear so they can heal and take a beating and they can run away. It's this new insta change ability given to druids so they can switch between forms instantly and it means you can hotkey moves whilst not in form and auto switch, very nasty. Strangely no pallies as healers but I guess in 3v3 it's more about doing a load of damage.
Defo interesting, the 2v2 winners earlier in the day we're a 2v2 side warrior/druid combo so something to bear in mind :D
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Mags
Don't commit if you can't make it of course. There would be little fun if you were 4 levels behind us all the time. But of course it would be fantatsic to set something up so different for a few of us especially if the aim is to be as good as we can be as a team.
I've never played on a PVP realm so scrapping other players on the fly is going to be really big fun. Especially if it all kicks off as I saw once (on a non pvp server) in Astranaar. The idea of constantly facing the threat of ambush or aggro seems far more appealing if you are always in a well coordinated group of 5. I'm not really into the notion of bullying smaller players but bullying bigger ones who start it - bring it on!!
I had a chat with John (Gurge) about 5v5. His advice (as well as expect, at first, to lose a lot) was pretty much that you can make any group of players work so long as you learn, in great detail, how the others play.
Go On Mags take the Shammy !! Or are you scared of my tiny little Lock....... :)
Neo
If you take the Rogue have a look at the Troll starting package (the race skills they get) - let me know what you think..
Mark
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I was actually thinking blood elf Rogue, they have an AoE silence, admittedly it lasts two seconds, but, that silence will stop heals, not many things are adapted for being rogues, I think undead are one of the best choice for rogues, but i'd be so far away from everyone accept whatever blood elf we have...
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Bloof elm hmm - we could have two AOE silence !!
I was thinking Blood elf for mage they have some lovely stuff for casters but if I play Lock probably Orc they have tougher pets and can do more damage (albeit at half healing). i might be tempted by undead though.
Strange though I'd have thought regeneration, extra dodge and extra damage might be tempting. Trolls seem to be built for Rogues I thought - but your call matey.
Re where we start I will happilly travel although i envisage we just meet up after an 45 min after our starting areas. But I'll hook up with whereever everyone else is.
When I am next on line I'll see if I can recruit to the last two places - Neo have you spoken to smisk about this??
Mark
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Bloof elm hmm - we could have two AOE silence !!
Don't be forgetting that I would be able to provide one. The only Horde race that you can have a pally on is BElf.
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At level 70 the Orc class ability increases attack power by 282 for 15 seconds and increases resistance to stun by 15% - 30 sec cooldown
The Troll one increases attack speed by 10% to 30% for 10 seconds. They also regenerate at 10% whilst in combat - 1 min cooldown
A blood elf rogue can silence for 2 seconds at a radius of 8 yards - cooldown 10 min.
Mark
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Common guys, lets not let this crash and burn. Lets make this idea work! So we need 2 more people to fill gaps within the team, lets get sourcing those players! Anyone who hasn't already posted their interests in this team, POST NOW! :)
Common guys!
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Spinebrekers Decided name, My characters Neodragus, Skarab is Mark (Jarlene) and James (Paladinftw) is gonna be called something like Eyecandi or eyecandy
come on and join us guys!
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If only this was coming 4-5 months later, I'd really be interested in joining.
I've just joined Shadowsong, and of course, my 2nd character was a Rogue for a bank...and with enchanting and engineering, a lvl 19 twink ;)
But with Shotz, Nuka (the week-play character with Swifty) and Kali (Bank), I think I'm already starting to get back into my alt-whore ways. I *will* have one level 70 on any server before I make a single other alt! >:(
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But with Shotz, Nuka (the week-play character with Swifty) and Kali (Bank), I think I'm already starting to get back into my alt-whore ways. I *will* have one level 70 on any server before I make a single other alt! >:(
Practice this phrase
"Sod off Swifty!"
it'll help with the Alt-whoring ;)
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I've made my character. Name is Eyecandi (some biatch took it with a y ¬.¬). Am a lvl6 almost lvl7 BElf pally, Mark is 5 I think and is an Undead lock, don't know much about Neo's char as far as it's a troll xD. Join us if you can, the more the marrier as far as we see but 10 I think is the ultimate limit to this.
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Practice this phrase
"Sod off Swifty!"
it'll help with the Alt-whoring ;)
I'll bear it in mind. Trouble is I'm an alt whore too. I might see you there within a month or two ;)
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Yes it seems spinebreaker lives up to its name.
I made an undead Lock (nice 'n ugly) walked out of the starting area (which i think is a chapel) and was challenged to a duel. Jeez I hadn't even put my sheild up yet. But wot ho. First quest, PVP, second quest, PVP then just PVP PVP PVP...
By the time I was level 5 I'd beaten a lvl 7 Rogue and a lvl 6 Mage. By lvl 6 I'd done more PVPing than I've ever done in Shadowsong. Brill looked like Redhill on a Friday night only with er.. undead people. Oh OK - just the same then.
.. and then a Dwarf turned up....
Anyway we've got a Pally, Lock and Rogue. We also have a Warrior (I couldn't resist the name Trubble) if we need to swap around.
Neo is very excited and wants to play every night so feel free to have a look at the server it really is a unique experience. And if you do fancy an instance - we'll be there on Tuesadys.
Mark
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I'd say 5 rogues or 5 druids would be awesome too.
Talk about powerattack with 5 ambushes :D
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I made a Belf rogue for the silence and magicresistance.
Name is: Indescent.
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When I get sum more time, i'll probably make a preist of sum kind just so that we hav another healer/DPS on the team incase we need a change. Will do that and post details once I've got more time but my brother has just changed the card on which the subscription was registered too and isn't able to re-register another subscription until tomorrow at least.
Also the pally is now lvl 8 if you were wondering.
Another thing, Mark, since you have the caster of the group at the moment, could you make a mage as i think that the crowd control aspect of it could come in handy, as well as the never ending supply of food and water that we would have. :)
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Ok, so I have no WoW time atm and I'm bored as hell, so I made myself a talent tree for Eyecandi. Check it out and please say what you think and feel in here. Link is:
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/paladin/talents.html?0550312052013253135151025100000000000000000000000000000000000000
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But with Shotz, Nuka (the week-play character with Swifty) and Kali (Bank), I think I'm already starting to get back into my alt-whore ways. I *will* have one level 70 on any server before I make a single other alt! >:(
Practice this phrase
"Sod off Swifty!"
it'll help with the Alt-whoring ;)
Doesn't matter too much. I have rolled Happyhoof. He is a tauren druid. Thinking about going feral. Wont be able to do tuesdays, but I hear tale that there might be some on other nights
for build was thinking this:
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/druid/talents.html?00000000000000000000055302213232210533125155000000000000000000 (http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/druid/talents.html?00000000000000000000055302213232210533125155000000000000000000)
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Meh PVP build
http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/basics/talents/druid/talents.html?01000000000000000000050023213032212533125105500301000000000000
Important point to note for any aspiring druid for really high lvel had stuff is the use of nature's grasp (removes nasty felguards and other pets without you having to do anything), the other really important thing is the increased stun length since you'll be starting all fight with a stun then mangle rip till they can move then maim. This is of vcourse only for high level but it's important to know.
One other great thing you got if your a tauren is warstomp, don't forget about it since you can stun then shift heal
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An Update
The roll call so far is...
Myself - Lock
Tord - Rogue
James - Paladin
Marcus - Mage
Mark (swifty) - Druid
Neo - Rogue
Mags - come on Dan!!
Rachel is going to do a random to help with my Guild charter. There's also a couple more who have expressed an interest.
My Lock is lvl 18. The plan is we all will wait at lvl 19 so we can twink a bit together. So Skarab will be is Warsong gulch for a while untill everbody is at the same level. There seems to be actiovity most days which is cool.
Mark
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Pally is now lvl 10. my tailoring is 61 and enchanting 34. I can make 6 slot bags for whoever wants them and can do varius enchants:
Chest - Minor Mana (+5), Minor Health(+5),
Bracers - Minor Health(+5), Minor Deflection(+5 Defense),
Lesser Magic Wand.
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Ok, so to those of you who were on as their pvp hordies earlier, I'm sorry for the mess that happened. My pally is, of this moment, still trpped exiting the instance and I don't know why. :S I was reporting it to a GM but got fed up with the wait. My plan of action is to hope that the problem is sorted with the restarting of the servers this night, and if not then I'll have to attempt to talk to a GM about it, and if all else fails, I think the only thing that would be left is to restart the character from scratch (deleting and re-creating) which I hope it doesn't come to.
Just incase you didn't get the full story, After I had done and enchant on Swifty, I then went to exit the instance and have been trapped in a loading screen from there that moment. :'(
But on the brighter side of life, the pally is now 13, tailoring is now up at around 76, and enchanting is around 47 as far as I can remember. After the incident, as you know, I made a shammy called Shamanftw which is now level 6 and after spending some time on a private server I also now have a mage called Mageyftw who is level 3 but the server is being restarted. :P
Hopefully I will be back on the pally soon, if not I hope for the best.
MOD: After the restart of the server, pally was freed and so I can now play on. ^^ I have just done my pally quest so I can now res people. :)
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Good to see you back James
We are doing another Ragefire chasm run this evening. I will take my Ice Mage alt as I've hit the lvl 19 waiting button with Skarab.
"Pebbles" has joined the guild we are up to 7 people now I'll start a new thread to try and get the remaining 3. I have been given the names of another three who might be interested - let's see.
Mark
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Well I have 2 alts who can sign the charter if needed unless you want to start the guild with as many different people as you can. And I'm sure that one of the others has an alt aswell so thats our 10. :)
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Unfortunately i believe you cannot sign a guild charter if one of your accounts chars has already signed it
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Many thanks to those who chose to sign the charter yesterday.
We have a Guild (called "Most Wanted")
It has 14 players and I would say some notable characters!!
Mark